“I don’t think any of us as legislators like referendums being run on our decisions up here, but I think we represent the people,” Shipp said in a committee hearing last week. “If something rises to the concern enough that the people want to refer it, I think they need to have that opportunity, and school boards ought to be included in that.” 

Shipp ran a similar bill last year but it failed in the Senate. This year, he added the exception for supermajority decisions. 

In his committee presentation, Shipp mentioned a controversial split decision made by the Iron County School Board in 2019 that changed Cedar High School’s mascot from the “Redmen” to the “Reds.” 

“I think if we’d have had something like this at the time, that could have calmed the community a lot, because there was a lot of angst and concern and upset,” Shipp said. 

Rep. Andrew Stoddard, D-Sandy, said he supports referendums being run on imposed taxes but worries the rest of the bill is too broad.

“I worry that what this bill does is opens up every school board decision to becoming a political decision,” he said. “I’m sorry, your mascot changed. I’m sorry that’s hard, but sometimes we have to make hard decisions.”

Rep. Doug Welton, R-Payson, and Rep. Anthony Loubet, R-Kearns, asked if school closures would be subject to referendums because it’s an issue people are passionate about. 

“They could force this issue onto a ballot, and that could put our school districts in a precarious position where they have now a school, but they don’t have the students to fill it,” Loubet said. 

During the committee hearing, Shipp told Loubet he was open to talking about an amendment on the floor, but an amendment was not discussed on Tuesday. Both Welton and Loubet voted against the bill on the House floor. 

Granite School District Superintendent Ben Horsley told lawmakers during public comment that his district is currently in the process of implementing HB84, a school safety bill that went into effect at the beginning of this year, but to keep up with other costs, he is anticipating a tax increase. 

“If that were then subject to a referendum … we could be in violation of several state statutes and requirements in order to implement the mandates from the state legislature,” he said. “It’s important to understand that the bulk of our policies are state requirements, and if we can’t pass policies as required by those state statutes, because there’s a potential split on the vote, and that becomes subject to referendum, you can see the challenges there.” 

Shipp said except for supermajority decisions, all decisions could be subject to voter referendum, and maybe school boards should be careful with issues they know will be a concern to the public. 

“If the people rise to a point and they don’t want to wait four years, and it’s a really concerning issue, maybe there ought to be a way for them to take it to a vote of the people,” he said. 

Rep. Jefferson Burton, R-Salem, said the bill makes him think about who he’s voting for in general elections, and though he is always concerned about any legislation that “moves us more to a pure democracy,” he sees the value in this legislation. 

“Perhaps, if this bill does go forward, it will cause school boards to think long and hard about their votes on specific subjects,” he said.